Hi Arnold,I seldom post without using the "clown" no matter what the subject.It reminds me not to take my or other comments in anything but a positive or humerous (if they sound a little raw)light.By now you should realize that this place is SPECIAL.The moderators and members are a second family to me.As a Newbie I have recieved more help than I ever imagined on all phases of my computer education and about the world around me.I learn as much by reading answers to others computer questions as by those I ask and have never failed to get a fix.What ever it takes to type stay in touch with this site.You are a member of the PCQandA family and THAT makes YOU special,Sincerely,John :+