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jasonlevineThu Feb-16-17 08:38 PM
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Here's a transcript of Trump's Press Conference:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/16/donald-trumps-grievance-filled-press-conference-annotated/?utm_term=.ae732a7a155c

Please note, I can't be held responsible for your brain running out of your ear as you try to make sense of some of this stuff. Nor can I be held responsible for fits of rage when you read things like "they are not the Republican people our that representatives are representing" and realize that Trump thinks Congress only represents those who voted Republican.

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jazz4freeThu Feb-16-17 08:56 PM
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#1. "RE: Trump's Press Conference"
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He's nuts. Six months.

  

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jasonlevineThu Feb-16-17 09:18 PM
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#4. "RE: Trump's Press Conference"
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Thu Feb-16-17 09:24 PM by jasonlevine

  

          

I'm thinking he won't make it past his first 100 days (April 30th).

EDIT: A UK betting house is giving 10/11 odds that he doesn't finish his first term: https://www.inverse.com/article/26292-donald-trump-impeachment-odds

The "When will Trump be replaced" table is interesting.

2017: 7/2 odds
2018: 9/2
2019: 8/1
2020: 16/1
2021: 7/4
2022: 33/1
2023: 40/1
2024: 50/1
2025 or later: 5/1

What's sad is that there are better odds of Trump staying around past the end of his second term than there are of him finishing his first term.

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KJTThu Feb-16-17 09:07 PM
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#2. "RE: Trump's Press Conference"
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Good lord, he makes George W. Bush seem like a Rhodes Scholar.

Even Bannon's brain has to be spinning out of control.


Jim.

  

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jasonlevineThu Feb-16-17 09:17 PM
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I never thought I'd long for the days of George W Bush, but here I am. I'd take a third and fourth term of W before one term of Trump. Don't get me wrong, I didn't agree with much of what W did and didn't really like the guy. I even thought he was over his head for a lot of the time. Still, he rose to the occasion at times (after 9-11) and genuinely seemed to care about America. All Trump cares about is Trump. When W beat Al Gore and then John Kerry, he put it behind him and focused on being President. He didn't keep bringing up his victory over Gore/Kerry every time he spoke. Trump is acting like it's simultaneously November 9th (with the election just over) and November 7th (with him still running against Hillary). He can't seem to move past that and actually ACT LIKE A PRESIDENT!

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jazz4freeFri Feb-17-17 12:12 PM
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He's nuts. Everyday we see his counterparts wandering the streets, having animated conversations with themselves. This sort of behavior is pitiable in these sadly ill people, in the POTUS it's chilling. Trump was crudely amusing when he was playing God on a silly TV show, or copping peeks and feels at beauty contests, now he's just bloody scary.

  

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Paul DThu Feb-16-17 11:17 PM
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I was going to post this in a new thread, but it fits very nicely here.

http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/leonard-pitts-jr/article132721909.html

The full article:-

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BY LEONARD PITTS, JR.

Dear Mr. So-Called President:

So let me explain to you how this works.

You were elected as chief executive of the United States. I won’t belabor the fact that you won with a minority of the popular vote and a little help from your friends, FBI Director James Comey and Russian President Vladimir Putin. The bottom line is, you were elected.

And this does entitle you to certain things. You get your own airplane. You get free public housing. You get greeted with snappy salutes. And a band plays when you walk into the room.

But there is one thing to which your election does not entitle you. It does not entitle you to do whatever pops into your furry orange head without being called on it or, should it run afoul of the Constitution, without being blocked.

You and other members of the Fourth Reich seem to be having difficulty understanding this. Reports from Politico and elsewhere describe you as shocked that judges and lawmakers can delay or even stop you from doing things. Three weeks ago, your chief strategist, Steve Bannon, infamously declared that news media should “keep its mouth shut and just listen for a while.”

Just last Sunday, senior policy adviser Stephen Miller declared on CBS’ “Face The Nation” that “our opponents, the media and the whole world will soon see as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.”

What you do “will not be questioned?” Lord, have mercy. That’s the kind of statement that, in another time and place, would have been greeted with an out-thrust palm and a hearty “Sieg heil!” Here in this time and place, however, it demands a different response:

Just who the hell do you think you are?

Meaning you and all the other trolls you have brought clambering up from under their bridges. Maybe you didn’t notice, but this is the United States of America. Perhaps you’ve heard of it? Nation of laws, not of individuals? First Amendment? Freedom of the press? Any of that ringing a bell?

Let’s be brutally clear here. If you were a smart guy with unimpeachable integrity and a good heart who was enacting wise policies for the betterment of all humankind, you’d still be subject to sharp scrutiny from news media, oversight from Congress, restraint by the judiciary — and public opinion.

And you, of course, are none of those things. I know you fetishize strength. I know your pal Vladimir would never stand still for reporters and judges yapping at him.

I know, too, that you’re accustomed to being emperor of your own fiefdom. Must be nice. Your name on the wall, the paychecks, the side of the building. You tell people to make something happen, and it does. You yell at a problem, and it goes away. Nobody talks back. I can see how it would be hard to give that up.

But you did. You see, you’re no longer an emperor, Mr. So-Called President. You’re now what is called a “public servant” — in effect, an employee with 324 million bosses. And let me tell you something about those bosses. They’re unruly and loud, long accustomed to speaking their minds without fear or fetter. And they believe power must always answer to the people. That’s at the core of their identity.

Yet you and your coterie of cartoon autocrats think you’re going to cow them into silence and compliance by ordering them to shut up and obey? Well, as a freeborn American, I can answer that in two syllables flat.

Hell no.




Paul D

  

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KJTThu Feb-16-17 11:39 PM
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#7. "Where's the title of your post?"
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First Snyderman, now you.

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Paul DFri Feb-17-17 07:23 AM
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#13. "RE: Where's the title of your post?"
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Fri Feb-17-17 07:25 AM by Paul D

  

          

I wish I knew. It disappeared when I posted. The script seems to have problems with biggish complex posts.

It was meant to be the title of the article. For the record:-

Mr. President: ‘Just who the hell do you think you are?’




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KJTFri Feb-17-17 11:36 AM
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#14. "RE: Where's the title of your post?"
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The forum script apparently can't handle single quotation marks.

Double work fine but many publishers use single in their headline quotes so copying and pasting directly causes them to disappear in the Forum's subject line - as Snyderman found out.

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Paul DFri Feb-17-17 04:22 PM
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Aha. Thanks for that.



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StevehikerSat Feb-18-17 01:21 AM
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#19. "RE: Where's the title of your post?"
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I guess this thread is the right place for this link, too.
http://theweek.com/speedreads/681132/trump-posts-deletes-reposts-tweet-declaring-fake-news-media-enemy-american-people
Trump has got to go, we're talking major first amendment violation here.

Steve

  

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StevehikerSun Feb-19-17 04:24 AM
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Trump may be being blackmailed by more than one 'entity'.
http://theproudliberal.org/rachel-maddow-blows-open-report-exposing-trumps-blackmail-by-foreign-government/

Steve

  

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jasonlevineMon Feb-20-17 03:37 PM
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#21. "RE: Where's the title of your post?"
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The "Enemy of the American People" rhetoric is especially scary. By calling the media "the enemy", Trump is potentially setting up an assault on freedom of the press. Between that, his assault on the independent judiciary ("so-called judges", "WE WILL SEE YOU IN COURT", etc), and statements by people in his administration ("the power of the President will not be questioned"), he's looking more and more like a wanna-be dictator - not a President.

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jbmcmillanThu Feb-16-17 11:38 PM
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#6. "RE: Trump's Press Conference"
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If even his supporters aren't going a big WTF there's something seriously wrong with them.This wasn't a SNL skit was it? Probably this weekend though he just gave them tons of material.That is downright scary.

  

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KJTThu Feb-16-17 11:48 PM
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We'll know when next week's polls come out but in a poll taken from 2/7 - 2/12 up to "eighty-four percent of Republicans said they support Trump". Plus, a slight majority of Independents also still support him.

Jim.

  

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#9. "RE: Trump's Press Conference"
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Christ I'm glad I live in Canada.

  

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#12. "RE: Trump's Press Conference"
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Ditto!!!

  

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jasonlevineFri Feb-17-17 03:15 AM
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#10. "RE: Trump's Press Conference"
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The last poll I saw shows his approval rating at 39%. For comparison, the lowest approval rating (from Eisenhower to Obama) for a President after his first 100 days was Bill Clinton at 55%. Reagan and Bush Sr were tied for lowest initial approval rating at 51%. (Source)

At this point, Trump basically has a core group of supporters who would still approve of him even if he held a press conference to announce his "secret silent partner" and had Putin walk onstage.

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peterbFri Feb-17-17 05:03 AM
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#11. "RE: Trump's Press Conference"
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This could be the problem Jason:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/study-links-low-intelligence-with-right-wing-beliefs/article543361/

  

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jasonlevineFri Feb-17-17 02:07 PM
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#16. "RE: Trump's Press Conference"
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The Washington Post did some fact checking on the speech. Spoiler alert: His speech didn't contain many facts. (I know you're all shocked, right?)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/02/16/fact-checking-president-trumps-news-conference/?utm_term=.fadd334f63cb

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#17. "RE: Trump's Press Conference"
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Fri Feb-17-17 04:20 PM by Shelly

  

          

The only thing proved by that incoherant diatribe is that the man elected President of the United States last year is, for all practical purposes INSANE.

He can not distinguish between fact and fantasy, truth or lies. Every day more of the misguided voters who supported him are awakening to their mistake.

Any Repulicans in congress who really care about this country will hopefully have the courage to begin an impeachmernt process before he causes a war with his delusions. If allowed to continue in office he will destroy the Repulican Party as well.

Shelly

  

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