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DRThu Dec-20-01 08:26 AM
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"Downside to Hibernate XP?"


  

          

Are there any problems anyone has run into using hibernate with XP?



  

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ZakBobThu Dec-20-01 08:48 AM
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#1. "RE: Downside to Hibernate XP?"
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DR http://www.pcnineoneone.com/dcforum/computer/29538.html
Check the link, This may be a differnent problem then what you are refering to but it could happpen to you.



  

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ShellyThu Dec-20-01 08:50 AM
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#2. "RE: Downside to Hibernate XP?"
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I don't use it, I run 24/7, but I don't remember seeing any posts of problems with it. I think it is really designed for use in laptops.

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SidThu Dec-20-01 09:03 AM
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#3. "RE: Downside to Hibernate XP?"
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So far, it's great. With my system, when I hibernate, the computer shuts itself completely off (unlike Les' experience in which the computer appears to go into stand by).

I like the fact that everything that was running when I hibernated the night before (or, whenever) is right there when I wake the system up.

A thing to look for: When I first installed XP, I had an extra button in the shutdown screen for hibernate. After I reinstalled XP, I have only three buttons - Stand By, Turn Off, and Restart. To get the Hibernate button to show, I have to press the Shift key. Doing that changes the Stand By button to Hibernate.

Thinking about it, I'm pretty sure Les is not actually hibernating his system but, is, instead, simply putting it in Stand By. Otherwise, he wouldn't be able to revive it by simply pressing a key as he stated in his post back on the 15th.

An XP feature I'm not sold on yet is System Restore. When you need it, it seems to provide only paltry restoration. Not sure it's worth the disk space it'll fill up with restore profiles. Anyone?

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JPThu Dec-20-01 09:34 AM
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#7. "RE: Downside to Hibernate XP?"
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The System Restore profile on my laptop is about 150megs. I won't worry about it unless I'm really pressed for space on it.

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LesThu Dec-20-01 11:32 AM
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#13. "RE: Downside to Hibernate XP?"
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Under power options the only settings I have on now are "turn off monitor after 20 mins" and "allow hibernation". When I get up in the morning the monitor is dark but will light up if I tap the space bar or move the mouse. I don't think the computer itself is in hibernation but at least I don't have to reboot.

Les


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GroganThu Dec-20-01 09:15 AM
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#4. "RE: Downside to Hibernate XP?"
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I've tried it and it seems to work very well. However, XP starts up pretty quickly anyway and for the actual time saving involved, I find it's not worth it to cheat myself of the possible benefits of a fresh boot. (not to mention, with all the OSes I have installed you can imagine that I need to make my disk space count... I have hibernation disabled so I don't need to keep a hibernation file)

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SidThu Dec-20-01 09:38 AM
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#8. "RE: Downside to Hibernate XP?"
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But, Grog, you have always been a special case (tongue-in-cheek)

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HowardLThu Dec-20-01 09:23 AM
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#5. "RE: Downside to Hibernate XP?"
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I believe you have to have ACPI enabled in the BIOS for Hibernate to work. When you do that XP puts all or almost all devices on the same IRQ. This can cause problems with some GeForce cards. And some mobo's don't hibernate well. I had an Asus A7V that would refuse to come up out of hibernation with 98, a pretty common problem with that board.

  

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GroganThu Dec-20-01 09:33 AM
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#6. "RE: Downside to Hibernate XP?"
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No you don't... it's purely a software implemented feature in Windows 2000 and Windows XP. It dumps the contents of memory to a file, and shuts your system down. When the OS starts back up again, it just goes through a special routine where that file is read from disk into memory.

You probably need to have your ACPI implementation working correctly with Windows for things to work correctly if you're using it, but you do not need ACPI to use this particular hibernation function.

I've got a baby AT motherboard (I have to physically power off after hibernating)... no ACPI here

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SidThu Dec-20-01 09:41 AM
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#11. "RE: Downside to Hibernate XP?"
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My SOYO Dragon Plus shuts itself down all the way when I hibernate.

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GroganThu Dec-20-01 09:42 AM
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#12. "RE: Downside to Hibernate XP?"
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For it to work in the manner of suspend, where you press a key to bring the system back up it would need to be supported by hardware and the bios though, which would mean ACPI. So you're correct on that but that's another layer... not really the hibernation itself. I wasn't on the same page as you.

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ShellyThu Dec-20-01 09:40 AM
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#10. "RE: Downside to Hibernate XP?"
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I really don't think that you can compare hibernation in XP to the W98 implementation.

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SidThu Dec-20-01 12:26 PM
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#14. "RE: Downside to Hibernate XP?"
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I think you're right, Shel. It appears to be an entirely different function. Is XP the first OS to implement hibernation? I don't know about ME. Skipped that jewel.

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GroganThu Dec-20-01 09:40 PM
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#15. "RE: Downside to Hibernate XP?"
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Windows 2000 has that exact same Hibernation feature (software implementation that just about anyone can use).

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JPThu Dec-20-01 09:39 AM
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#9. "RE: Downside to Hibernate XP?"
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I've had no problems with Hibernate on my WinBook laptop so far. It actually seems to boot up a little more slowly than from a normal power up, probably because it's reloading all of the open programs and processes back into memory.

I don't see a need to use Hibernate on desktop system, and it probably should not be used all the time on any system. Even though XP is really stable, I still think it helps to boot fresh at least once in a while.

JP

  

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