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EllergreenSat Nov-01-03 05:31 PM
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"items appearing in IE History"
Sat Nov-01-03 05:32 PM by Ellergreen

  

          

If I open a document or file offline, I'm finding that the title is appearing in history view when I open IE. Is there a simple way of preventing this.
I'm running Xp-pro and IE6.
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KJTSat Nov-01-03 07:35 PM
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#1. "RE: items appearing in IE History"
In response to Ellergreen (Reply # 0)


  

          

It's not necessary to post the same question twice.

I don't know if this will do it but in Word click on View>Toolbars and make sure Web is unchecked.

Jim.

  

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EllergreenSat Nov-01-03 11:25 PM
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#2. "RE: items appearing in IE History"
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Sorry about the double posting.
No, the web bit in Word/View was unchecked.
As I said, any previously opened file will appear i.e. log, txt doc et al.

  

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ShellySat Nov-01-03 11:46 PM
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#3. "RE: items appearing in IE History"
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In Tools/Internet Options/General tab, set "Days to Keep Pages in History" to 0 days.

Shelly

  

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EllergreenSun Nov-02-03 11:42 AM
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#4. "RE: items appearing in IE History"
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Shelly,
the option to keep history at 0 days has always been displayed.
As a matter of interest, I've just opened a doc file in Word and an inf file, both are now appearing in IE history column. Weird.

  

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therubeSun Nov-02-03 02:27 PM
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#5. "RE: items appearing in IE History"
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The evil of index.dat "A MUST READ"
<http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=tolv0hprehorf1%40corp.supernews.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dwhat%2Bis%2Bstored%2Bin%2Bindex.dat%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwg>

Hackers, worms, and viruses have already made people cautious when using the
internet, but the existence of hidden files in Windows has made some people
wonder whether it is safe to switch their computer on at all.

Since our story on the Windows spy files first appeared last week we have been
inundated with hundreds of e-mails from readers. You've told us tales about
e-mail eavesdropping, prying on your workmates' surfing habits, and you have
reported some monstrous index.dat files.

But most of all we've received requests for further information. Has the age of
Big Brother finally arrived? Here, we attempt to answer your concerns.

What is index.dat?

Index.dat is a data file that is stored by Windows in the Windows/Temporary
Internet Files/Content.IE5 folder. Don't confuse it with other identically
named files stored in other folders - this one behaves differently.

What does it do?

Index.dat keeps track of web addresses that are accessed by a Windows computer.
Unlike similar files, index.dat in Content. IE5 is not cleared by Windows'
Clear Temporary Internet command. Unless it is deleted by other means it will
maintain a growing record of websites visited starting from the time Windows
was first installed.

What is its purpose?

Microsoft says it is to speed surfing by keeping an index of recently visited
internet addresses. But the company has not explained why the file keeps
addresses that were visited a long time ago, or why no easy means has been
provided to allow users to delete the file. These characteristics have led to
the index.dat file being widely used for forensic purposes to gather evidence
in cases involving inappropriate internet use.

What does Microsoft say?

Microsoft New Zealand technical marketing manager Terry Allen says there is
nothing sinister about index.dat and its purpose was not to spy on PC users.
"It is a hidden system file that optimises the performance of the internet
experience," he says. The reason index.dat recorded stored web addresses was
because it was "an efficient process for managing the cache", a feature of
Internet Explorer that stores web pages on a user's PC to speed access to
websites.

Why does index.dat keep growing?

This is how an index file works, says Mr Allen. "When files are deleted, they
aren't removed, but are overwritten over time. Some grow,
some will not depending on how the algorithm is progressed."

Why does the file not go away even when it is deleted?

Microsoft's cache system requires the index.dat file to be present. If the
index.dat file is deleted it is replaced when Windows is restarted. This file
is quite small at first, around 32 kilobytes, but it grows with further web
activity.

Does index.dat store web content?

No, it just stores web addresses. Content could easily be recreated by
revisiting websites, but web pages may have been removed or changed since the
original visit.

What about reading old web-based e-mails?

No e-mail messages are stored in index.dat, but readily browsable copies of
pages from web-based mail services are stored elsewhere in the Content. IE5
folder. These may include address book pages as well as messages. Many readers
have been able to exploit this characteristic to read other people's e-mails
without requiring passwords, an observation which Microsoft has yet to explain.
Interestingly, not every message originally accessed is stored, but we are not
clear why. A large, apparently random, selection of other web content may also
be stored in the folder. Microsoft recommends users who sign into Hotmail from
public places or shared computers should use an increased security option that
expires pages from Internet Explorer's cache when they sign out.

I've followed your Dos instructions but I can't find/edit the file - why?

If you're not familiar with Dos, it can be very tricky - one wrong keystroke or
space missed and it won't work. Some readers have told us it's easier to access
the file in Windows - using copy and paste to read it in Word or Wordpad.

Why can't most Windows programs find the index.dat file?

We understand Microsoft has taken certain technical steps to hide the index.dat
file and other files in the Content. IE5 folder from Windows programs. This
"cloaking" mechanism is loaded when Windows is first installed and may be
reinforced by files in Microsoft software releases. There's probably nothing
sinister about this - we believe Microsoft is doing this to protect the
integrity of the system and the security of the user.

Can the file be accessed over the internet?

Contrary to a Microsoft press release, we never suggested the index.dat file
was being accessed over the web. On the wider question of whether it could be
accessed over the internet, the answer is no - unless your computer has been
compromised by a hacker.

Is Microsoft accessing the file?

When we've asked this question, senior Microsoft New Zealand staff have
consistently and repeatedly denied it. "It is not designed to be accessed by
Microsoft or any third party. It's not designed for people to look at," says Mr
Allen.

Why are you targeting Microsoft? Don't other browsers keep similar files?

Yes they do, but they are cleared by Windows commands. The file persistence
problem is caused by the special interaction of Internet Explorer with Windows.
One long-term solution could be to use a non-Microsoft browser such as Netscape
or Opera with Windows.

Is this old news?

Yes and no. The topic has been bubbling away on net discussion groups for
years, and plenty of technically savvy people already knew about these files.
But some were unaware of its properties or the other contents of the Content.
IE5 folder.

  

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therubeSun Nov-02-03 02:28 PM
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#6. "RE: items appearing in IE History"
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History = index.dat ???
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A shortcut to each page you visit is stored in the History folder. When a
shortcut is added to the folder, an entry is made in index.dat to tell IE where
the shortcut is. The shortcut itself is not stored in index.dat, only a
reference to the shortcut. Every time Windows starts, the contents of the
History folder are scanned and checked against index.dat. If there are no
shortcuts in History, then all the entries in index.dat are marked as deleted.
The entry itself remains in index.dat, but will be overwritten as required
(similar to deleting files in DOS: only the first character is deleted and a
flag is set, although the contents of the file actually remains on the disk).
So if you reformat, and thereby delete all the shortcuts, then restore the
index.dat, IE tries to find the shortcut, sees it does not exist any longer,
and so marks the entry in index.dat as +ACI-deleted+ACI-. The same process is
at work in Temporary Internet Files and Cookies, both of which contain their
own index.dat.

  

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therubeSun Nov-02-03 02:29 PM
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#7. "RE: items appearing in IE History"
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Could this be legit? <language alert>

<http://www.pcqanda.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=2&topic_id=256956>

  

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EllergreenMon Nov-03-03 01:58 PM
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#8. "RE: items appearing in IE History"
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Is there any connection between my original query and Rubes' postings???

  

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LilJoeMon Nov-03-03 02:34 PM
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#9. "RE: items appearing in IE History"
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Yeah,the subject lines are the same

LilJoe

  

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KJTMon Nov-03-03 03:07 PM
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#10. "RE: items appearing in IE History"
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The only way I can get word documents to appear in the IE history list is to either open or create a *.htm or *.html document. So, if what you are seeing has a *.doc or *.txt extension, then I have no idea. I can find nothing relevant in the MS Knowledgebase or with Google dealing with your issue.

If you're concerned with privacy take a look at http://www.computing.net/windows2000/wwwboard/forum/53108.html which suggests a means to remove the entire index.dat history at each reboot.

Jim.

  

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therubeTue Nov-04-03 01:19 AM
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#11. "RE: items appearing in IE History"
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"Is there any connection between my original query and Rubes' postings???"


Yes actually.

If I look in my IE history for today (and I might add that I do not use IE), I see four .TXT documents that I opened off my desktop, a few .PNG files that I saved through IrfanView, a few photos that I downloaded through alltheweb using Mozilla, and a couple .MP3 samples also downloaded using Mozilla.

Do I care that the information is there. No. Does it both me. Not really. How did it get there & why is it there. Well I'm not really sure but part of the answer may be in some of the links I posted.

There are a few programs out there that purport to analyse the "index.dat" files, displaying everything that's in there. There is an entire cottage industry built around deleting those files. There have been discussions here pertaining to index.dat.

In my case this information is stored in
C:\Documents and Settings\{user}\Local Settings\History\History.IE5\index.dat

Some of what it shows:

Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/TMP/X/mozilla-win32-1.6a-installer.exe
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/WLIB/INCTRL/mozilla16a.TXT
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/RUBEN/My%20Documents/left1b.png
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/ruben/My%20Documents/Character%20Counter.html
Visited: RUBEN@file:///F:/DAC/R.E.M/Up/playlist.pls
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/ruben/Desktop/New%20Text%20Document.txt
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/RUBEN/My%20Documents/ncnbb.png
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/RUBEN/My%20Documents/left1l.png
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/RUBEN/My%20Documents/ncnbl.png
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/RUBEN/My%20Documents/left1.png
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/RUBEN/My%20Documents/ncnb.png
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/RUBEN/My%20Documents/ncnbi.png
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/ruben/Desktop/EverCASE.txt
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/ruben/Desktop/XTEXT.TXT
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/ruben/Desktop/XFER2.txt
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/TMP/DX90b/treec/X/X/a_taste_of_honey.mp3
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/RUBEN/My%20Documents/thick_brick2.mp3
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/RUBEN/My%20Documents/5263.jpg
Visited: RUBEN@file:///C:/TMP/DX90b/treec/X/X/Mike%20Oldfield%20-%20tubullar_bells.mp3

Have I come up with definitive answers. No. Take a look & see what's in yours.

  

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EllergreenTue Nov-04-03 08:43 PM
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#12. "RE: items appearing in IE History"
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Rube,
If I appeared to be rude, I do apologise. It's just that as a (very) Silver surfer I have the curiosity of a teenager!!
I am trying to find out why, all of a sudden, these previously unseen items should appear in Ie's History.
There are four users on my computer and I really don't want to embarrass them by unwittingly eavesdropping on their day to day activities.
I do, however, thank all my friendly members for their interest.

  

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