What am I missing here? I don't understand why this happened, I am completely puzzled and most definitely saddened to think this young college student was treated in the manner in which he was. What has happened to freedom of speech?

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AN AMERICAN university student was held down and shot with a Taser stun gun by police in the middle of a question-and-answer session with former presidential candidate Democrat John Kerry.

Footage of yesterday’s incident at the University of Florida has appeared on YouTube and has already attracted more than 66,000 views.

In the clips, a young man asks Senator Kerry why he didn’t dispute the results of the 2004 election, while four uniformed officers stand behind him.

After he asked Senator Kerry if he was a member of the same secret society as US President George W. Bush, who won the election, the officers tried to remove him.

He was then dragged towards the back of the lecture hall before being held to the ground and hit with the Taser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

More here, including video also. http://www.gainesvillesun.com/section/news07

I'm shocked, simply shocked.

I also don't understand why you have a student here crying out for help and everyone just sits there doing nothing.

Help me please to better understand this. :(

I agree. He didn't throw a pie and got tazered anyway. :+

Not sure this link will be appropriate here and if any of the moderators feel it isn't, please remove.

http://www.floridabluekey.com/

All the videos are on this page.

This guy certainly has a good point.

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I'm shocked, simply shocked.

I also don't understand why you have a student here crying out for help and everyone just sits there doing nothing.

Help me please to better understand this. :(

Jumping into a police action is a real good way to get someone killed. Especially when they are assigned to a detail that involves a U.S Senator.

I think that all the people stood by because they knew that they would be next if they did anything. Law inforcement people seem to jump at the chance to tazer someone these days. Not only in the States but up here in Canada too.

Those videos really turned my stomach. I've never seen such a group of sheep in my life, led by John "Let's make believe nothing is happening" Kerry. The cops appeared to be acting on signal from somewhere.
I think schools need to return to rote memorization and to start with the U.S. constitution.


I grew up with a Father that would call home and tell my Mom that he may be late for dinner because he was going with black coworkers to integrate an amusement park, and was expecting to be arrested. Where are we going if no one has values that they will stand up for even at some risk.

I doubt we will ever know who signaled those cops to move in.

The Terrorists won on 9-11, Americans have to work hard now to take back America.

Ethan

It looks there is more to that guy than simply being an innocent student. Elements point to the possibility that he was intentionally creating a scene. http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/19/student.tasered/index.html

JP

He was. And within minutes of his incarceration his friends had a website up about it. It was all planned from the get go. That and John Kerry WAS in the room. The cops didn't know if this loon had a weapon on him ready to discharge.

Freedom of speech is fine, but I believe you have to do it peaceably.


I don't agree with the taser though, if 4 cops can't get a handle on 1 kid they shouldn't be cops.

Seems to me that young man is responsible for whatever happened to him. He was obviously trying to start a confrontation with his off the wall question about some secret society. His sole purpose appeared to be disrupting the meeting, spouting his own political agenda, and ruining it for other attendees. The security people asked him to leave and tried to escort him peacefully to the exit. He chose instead to get physical and suffered the consequences. The security people needed to get him under control and prevent possible injury to themselves and the possibility that others might have joined the fracas. Why should the security people risk getting kicked in the face or suffering other injury when a taser will put the person down and take all the fight out of them and put a quick end to an escalating situation? Freedom of speech is not an issue here.

Whatever provocation may have been provided by the student, the police reaction was excessive. The student was already in handcuffs and a danger to no one before the tazer was used.

Police use the tazer because they can, and they get sadistic pleasure out of it. an officer who would not dare fire a gun in such a situation will use a tazer for their gratification thinking it non-lethal. There have been more that 80 tazer caused deaths since 1999.

It was the third questionable use of a tazer by one of the officers involved, and a first use by the other officer.

A university is a place where intellectual freedom, and a right to freely express political opinion, is an overriding concern to its very purpose. Interfering with expressing legitimate opinion in a university is akin to banning religion in a church.

The two officers should be fired as an example to others, and all law enforcement agencies should establish strict guidelines for under what circumstances a tazer can be used. This should be limited to protecting the immediate safety of the officer, and/or civilians in the area. Any sadistic use of a tazer should result in prosecution of the officer involved and a jail sentence.

The public would have far more respect for the police if we got rid of bad cops who abuse their authority for their personal pleasure instead of their personal safety.

Both George w. Bush and John Kerry were members of the secret "Skull and Bones Society" at Yale University, as were Bush's father, grandfather, and great grandfather.

The question asked of Kerry was entirely appropriate. No member of that society will ever publicly admit to membership. But disgruntled members have identified members going back at least to 1848.

There was nothing that this kid did was appropriate. He went into this with the result that he wanted.

Your opinion, obviously based upon a lack of understanding of the First Amendment, and the meaning of free speech.

I read it often, as you do. :-)


I'm sure the other students who went up to the microphone and asked the Senator a question in the manner that free speech was meant for, didn't get dragged out of the room.

That falls far short of undestanding it.

I first heard that fellow screaming on CNN, was not looking at the TV.

I thought CNN was visiting Abu Graib prison in Iraq were our troops were doing violence on our behalf. You know "fighting terrorism".

Go ahead give it a try, listen to his screams with your eyes closed and see if Abu Graib doesn't come to mind. ;)

A belated welcome to the 21st century Jan. :)

So you think it's ok to use free speech as a crutch to get up there and disrupt the whole session?

The police officers should be commended. Post # 7 and post # 8 are the only two here that comes near to identifying the problem.It is obvious that your hate Bush bias is showing.

My what a useful comment! What the hell has Bush got to do with it?

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My what a useful comment! What the hell has Bush got to do with it?

You tell me . you're the one that brought the names up.



Shelly Wed Sep-19-07 04:02 PM
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#10, "RE: American college student beaten up and tasered for ..."
In response to Les (Reply # 8)
Wed Sep-19-07 04:03 PM by Shelly



Both George w. Bush and John Kerry were members of the secret "Skull and Bones Society" at Yale University, as were Bush's father, grandfather, and great grandfather.

The question asked of Kerry was entirely appropriate. No member of that society will ever publicly admit to membership. But disgruntled members have identified members going back at least to 1848.

For the information of all those who hate Law Enforcement so badly I offer the following:

The Floride incident, from the accounts I have read, was staged for effect. Without the arrest and fight that ensued, this jerks time would have been wasted.

Being restrained by handcuffs does not render a suspect safe to handle. I had a friend who was shot and killed by a suspect wearing handcuffs. I had another friend who was kicked in the face by a suspect in handcuffs. I could go on.

The tazer was developed to eliminate the use of the police baton because folks did not want to see suspects beaten by a stick of wood.

The suspect in Floride could have stopped the altercation at any time by submitting.

As to the First Amendment, the Supreme Court has held that there are limits to the right to speak. Remember the "shouting fire in a crowded theater?"

Once an arrest has been started, the officer is obligated to finish it even if force is necessary. We cannot allow suspects to decide whether they choose to be arrested or not.

I guess one would have to have been there and done it to understand how it works.

Flailing arms does not equate to "resisting violently". While he was certainly acting up, there was no reason to manhandle that kid in the first place. I watched all the videos from the various angles and it looked to me like he'd have headed right out the door if they'd have let him. He was hit with the taser not once, but twice while he was already restrained. That's not what it's for... bloody cowards. It's not to punish for "disobedience" or to get someone to shut up.

It's all over the Internet now and there will be Hell to pay for the actions of those campus renta-cops.

Hate law enforcement? Why oh why would anyone want to think that way? I'll tell you why... when officers behave more like criminals, society is going to disrespect them, work against them and yes, even hate them. (Which is an emotion that goes far beyond disrespect)

It is truly pathetic if people don't see anything wrong with what transpired there. A political speaker at a university... wow, is a bit of heckling ever out of the ordinary. We'd best not tolerate that, it's a "threat to national security".

The authority worshiping herbivores in here can now go back to sleep.

Since you clearly believe the police are always right, I'd be interested in your take on this one.

Indiana Cops Missed Crash Victims.

http://www.officer.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=37928

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Paul D

I didn't see anywhere where don s "clearly" thinks the cops are always right.


He "clearly" just thinks that in this case.


Of course I could be wrong, we'll wait to see if he thinks cops are never wrong. Broad assumption, but we'll see.

Has the SCOTUS really ruled on 'shouting fire in a crowded theater'?
I have always understood that you can say anything you wish, you just need to be prepared to take responsibility for any subsequent actions.

Please forgive me Bob, I had forgotten about your limitations. I was responding to Les in his post #8

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Seems to me that young man is responsible for whatever happened to him. He was obviously trying to start a confrontation with his off the wall question about some secret society.

The question the student asked Kerry was if he had belonged to the same secret society as George W. Bush.

It was a legitimate question because both of them did as I pointed out.

You would not know it, of course, but dozens of the most distinguished men in our history also belonged to the Skull and Bones including a number of Presidents. You are our resident expert on hared, so I will not argue the rest with you.

The authority worshiping herbivores in here can now go back to sleep.

And the wrong headed liberals can continue their rants!!:+

Kerry was there as a politician speaking politically. He was fair game for a young man who was bitter about the poor campaign he ran in the last Presidential election, resulting in the reelection of our current President, and all that followed from that. Those who don't like politics should avoid political meetings.

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Please forgive me Bob, I had forgotten about your limitations. I was responding to Les in his post #8

Seems to me that young man is responsible for whatever happened to him. He was obviously trying to start a confrontation with his off the wall question about some secret society.

The question the student asked Kerry was if he had belonged to the same secret society as George W. Bush.

It was a legitimate question because both of them did as I pointed out.

You would not know it, of course, but dozens of the most distinguished men in our history also belonged to the Skull and Bones including a number of Presidents. You are our resident expert on hared, so I will not argue the rest with you.

Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.

-- Frederick Douglass

A significant piece of this that seems to be overlooked is that the organizers of the event had cut off questioning before Meyer went to the microphone.
JP

He may have been rude. He may have been controversial. What was he being arrested for? Why were people who have no training for physical control making an arrest in a place where it was bound to cause a riot. Talk about calling fire in a crowded theater! The cops and all involved were actually lucky that the others in the room were a bunch of lemmings.

Ethan

Keep attacking. You are far too small a man to offer an apology. How pathetic.

At the moment, O.J. Simpson would be an excellent example.

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Keep attacking. You are far too small a man to offer an apology. How pathetic.

Oh really" pot calling kettle black. Very well,I expected no less. And why, or what am I apologizing for ?your superioty complex is disgusting. Mr Majestic indeed. :bs: And you calling my responses attacks,what the hell are yours ?

That's true. I give Kerry that for the courage to do such events.


However, using that as an excuse to be out of line, is just that...an excuse.


Edit: Demanding an answer out of John Kerry as to why Clinton was impeached for a "BJ(bad language censored)", but Bush hasn't been impeached for Iraq isn't disruptive, or in poor taste, or in violation of school rules?

Free speech doesn't protect him from this and should of been asked to sit down or leave the room. And it would of ended at that. He wouldn't of been put in jail for what he said. But you will go to jail for elbowing a cop.

For all those who are mis-interpreting or misunderstanding the situation or think this kid is in the right by using free speech as a crutch, here's the police report. I think it, and the videos, prove him guilty as charged.


Unless of course you're a fanatic who thinks the cop is lying in the police report. I don't think that's the case in this instance because there were too many cameras, witnesses and other cops around to lie in the report.


DISCLAIMER:

Yes I know some cops do lie in police reports, yes I know some cops are bad, yes I know the taser was over the top (but they followed police protocol in using it), yes I know some of us are too freely giving up our freedoms and yes to any other mundane detail I frequently forget to add in my posts that is clearly obvious, that people like to call me on, in case I forgot to mention it.


Begin Police Report:


Here is a portion of the narrative from the police report:

"On the above date and time the defendant Andrew Meyer was being lawfully detained for
inciting a riot and disrupting a school function, (Accent productions presented Senator John
Kerry) at the University Auditorium. Upon contact with Meyer, he began acting in a violent
manner pushing the officers involved, including lifting me off the ground and screaming
obscenities. Meyer was told on several occasions to comply with the officers and stop resisting, in which Meyer did not. Meyer was arrested and transported to Alachua County Detention Center.

"On 09/17/07 at 1015 hours, I was working an overtime function at the University Auditorium
for Accent presents Senator John Kerry. There were approximately 350 plus people in
attendance. At approximately 1245 hrs., Ambassador Jett informed the audience that there
would be a question and answer session and that Senator Kerry would only be answering
about 6 questions, 3 on each side of the room where there were microphones set up. Senator
Kerry told Ambassador Jett that he might be able to answer a couple more, time permitting.
Senator Kerry was answering questions during the "question and answer stage" of his
presentation when the audience was told there would only be one question left to be answered.
After the question was answered, Senator Kerry stated the question and answer was over and
thanked the audience for asking their questions. The approximate number of people in line
asking questions was about 20, and Senator Kerry answered about 8 questions. All of the
people standing in line started to dissipate and either sat back down or started to leave.
As Senator Kerry was ending his speech, a man disrupted the senator by screaming, yelling,
and flailing his arms. The man moved his way down the aisle yelling, "Why don't you answer
my questions, I have been waiting and listening to you speak in circles for the last two hours."
"These officers are going to arrest me". I didn't see any officer directly next to him until I
noticed Officer Wise walking down trying to get his attention. The man was screaming and
yelling obscenities until Senator Kerry told him to calm down and that he would take his
question, but he needed to calm down. At that point, the man stated, "You will take my
question because I have been listening to your crap for two hours". The man at that point
turned to his friend and said, "Are you taping this? Do you have this? You ready?" The man
was talking to a woman who was there to film him. Before asking the question, I had a chance
to ask the man if he was a student and he stated, "I don't have to tell you." I the asked him if he knew the rules to the student code of conduct and he said, "What?" I informed the man
that after he asked Senator Kerry the question that I needed to talk to him outside. After
asking the question, the man would not let Senator Kerry finish his statement and kept
badgering the senator about his beliefs, and yelling as loud as he could as to sensationalize his presence.

At that moment the Accent Director, Max Tyroler, asked us to take him out of the auditorium
and had his microphone turned off stating, "He has said enough." Officer Wise and I
grabbed both of the man's arms and asked him to come with us out of the auditorium to
speak with us. The man then lifted me up and pushed Officer Wise to avoid being taken into
custody. As he pushed and kicked Officer Wise, Sgt. King grabbed him and escorted him out
of the room, but the man pushed Sgt. King out of the way and was yelling and trying to get
back down the aisle.

At this point Officer Sexton, Officer De Jesus, and Officer Lamb tried to assist Officer Wise and Sgt King in getting a hold of the punching and kicking irate man while Officer Dean, Officer Passero, and Officer Spurlin were present trying to assist. The man continued to scream and yell as well as push, kick, and elbow the officers attempting to take him into custody.

After multiple attempts to tell him to stop resisting, the man said, "No" and continued to push and elbow the officers. Only one handcuff was placed on the man as he continued to punch his way out of the hold. The officers could not get a hold of his other arm as he was kicking, punching, and elbowing into officers. After many attempts to get the man to comply, he chose to continue actively resisting the officers. I obeyed the command from Sgt. King to utilize the taser for the continuation of non-compliance by the man. One contact tase to the man's left shoulder was deployed for the duration of its cycle. After the cycle ended, the man was asked to comply and stop resisting and for a brief moment he did, at which time he was placed in handcuffs. After he was lifted to his feet, he kept screaming and yelling to let him go by continually pushing the officers. I read the man his Miranda rights and explained why he was being placed under arrest. As the man was escorted down stairs with no cameras in sight, he remained quiet, but once the cameras made their way down
stairs he started screaming and yelling again. Some of the comments that the man made were
"You can't kill me.", "They are giving me to the government." and "They are going to kill
me."

The man was identified not only by the people there filming for him, but also by a business
card he had on him that had his picture on it. The card read, "TheANDREWMEYER.com
"Speak my mind." I asked him if he was Andrew Meyer and he said, "Yes, I am."
Meyer was transported to the Alachua County Detention Center by my myself and Officer
Vinson. Meyer stated he just wanted Senator Kerry to hear what he had to say and that he
was upset when he ended the questions without being heard. Meyer stated, on the way to the
jail, "I am not mad at you guys, you didn't do anything wrong, you were just trying to do
your job." Meyer was laughing and being lighthearted in the car, his demeanor completely
changed once the cameras were not in sight. Meyer did ask, at one point, if the cameras were
going to be at the jail.

Meyer was charged with disturbing the peace (interfering with a school function) and
resisting with violence. A use of force report was filled out and Meyer was sent a Judicial
affairs form for his actions. None of the officers injured needed to seek medical attention and the injuries sustained from this incident were digitally documented


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/florida/news-article.aspx?storyid=91664




Edit: And the FULL police report here:

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/09/18/offense.report.072274.pdf

Thanks for the Updates. After reading them I stand by my previous statements. The cops through unprofessional use of force were almost the cause of a riot.
I was mistaken in the source of the attack order not being identified.

Ethan

I by the way in a similar situation would have acted in a similar manner other then that I would have passively resisted arrest.

You're right about the cops, and before I get called on it I should clear up my view on it.


From what I've been reading all over the internet and including here is that people are putting the cops at the scene at fault for using the taser.

They were only following, what I am sure is, standard police procedure. When you resist, you will be tazed. On top of that, from what I remember in the police report, one officer go the go-ahead from his Sargent to use the taser.

If Mr. Meyer's whole purpose for this is to bring to the forefront the police's excessive tazering there are better ways of going about it...for all Americans, than to do what he did.

The laws on how tazers should be used by police seriously need to be amended. I think a letter to your local congressman or Senator is a good place to start.


Taken from Shelly's post #9"

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all law enforcement agencies should establish strict guidelines for under what circumstances a tazer can be used. This should be limited to protecting the immediate safety of the officer, and/or civilians in the area.

I would include this in the letter.

After reading the pdf of the arrest report I was wondering about the constitutionality of the listing of "Ethnicity: Not of Hispanic Origin".
If the activity had come to a close they could have left the victim there talking to himself, sweeping the floor around him, he had threatened no one.
As to his shouts not to tazer him, He had one of the officers pressing a tazer into his chest repeatedly pulling the trigger, the tazer did not work and he was then tazered by a different cop.

Ethan

We are still talking about a loony, whose motive at the time was unknown, aggressively harassing a United States Senator.

This "Do you know who I am?" United States Senator?
http://www.davidstuff.com/incorrect/carr1.htm

Don't misinterpret, I would not support Kerry if he were running for dogcatcher. But we should not pick and choose which Senator is allowed to be protected from possible physical harm. Decking him after he is out of office may be different.

My response was because I thought you were indicating that U.S. Senators should receive some deference or respect.
I did not observe any indication of possible physical harm. I saw a typical rude, boorish heckler looking for his 15 minutes. Personally, I wish people like him would be silenced and removed anytime they disrupt a gathering to listen to a speaker/guest. It doesn't matter whether the speaker/guest is a Dem/Rep/Liberal/Conservative/Independent/aethiest or whatever. The audience attends to hear the person on stage.

An opinion of a fellow student:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHAXym2rzSo
Regards, Jack

Here is another Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2JJ4omFGVM&mode=related&search=

And also expand the comments text to the right of the video to see where some of this is coming from:

**READ THIS**...Look at him turn around right as he mentions Skull and Bones and his mic is shut off exactly at that time...and he motions for the police that its "time" to take him...it is meant to make it as if the "secret Govt"/New World Order(NWO) is behind this silencing...when it is in fact the Zionists Control the Police DEPT. and your Politicians...THE UF IS ALL FAKED...IT IS CREATED TO MAKE YOU FEAR THE POLICE AND FEAR TO ASK QUESTIONS...THE ZIONIST JEWISH CABAL OWN 99% OF THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA AND OWN YOUR GOVERNMENT...LOOK TO SEE WHO OWNS YOUR NEWS MEDIA...john kerry(jewish)...andrew meyer(jewish)...john kerry's great grandparents are czech jews from europe Benedikt and Mathilde Kohn....ITS TIME TO WAKE UP NOW...

Andrew Meyer's is holding a book by Greg Palast...who is a A JEWISH ZIONIST APOLOGIST...


TIME TO AWAKEN NOW TO FULL CONSCIOUSNESS AND CHANGE THE FUTURE AND THE WORLD...

The Israeli Zionist MOSSAD took out the towers and the Zionist controlled mainstream media doesnt tell you the truth...99% of the mainstream media is controlled by Jewish ppl...99% of Hollywood is controlled by Jewish ppl...look it up...you have the net...its time to AWAKEN NOW to FULL CONSCIOUSNESS...there is so much to tell you...look up on youtube AIDS/HIV HOAX, SARS HOAX, WEST NILE VIRUS HOAX, AVIAN/BIRD FLU HOAX...NO HUMAN HAS BEEN IN SPACE...ISS HOAX...MOON HOAX...

AMERICA'S RULERS

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bush...

...your food is poisoned...go look in you cuboard right now an look up Monosodium Glutamate(MSG)...look up SOY...and Flouride in your water...Aspartame in diet soada's...look these up...google them to see how healthy they are to you...

but hey you can create your own future...

The Secret 1st 20 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1GKG...

Your Future is NOW... (more)

I think his mic was cut for something as simple as saying BJ.

Officer On Leave After Woman Tasered

http://www.winknews.com/news/weird/9906352.html

Incidentally, I don't go hunting for this stuff. These two incidents have had extensive print, TV and radio news coverage in Australia.

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Paul D

Kerry should have stopped it. He of all people is aware that people will protest or ask questions or even disrupt meetings. He should remember this from his days as a protester. He should have stood tall for this young man.

Some one said on here if 4 cops cannot handle one youth they should not be law enforcement officials. I totally agree.

The 9/19 Daily Show (Comedy Central network) had the take on this that I would agree with most. They keep some of their stuff online for a few days.

http://www.comedycentral.com/index.jhtml

Get your bumper stickers!!


Don\'t Tase Me, Bro!

I apologize:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071030/D8SJHBQ00.html

His cries for help where obviously to simply make a scene. However right or wrong the police where for removing him they started out rather gently. He then progressively became more resistive. You just don't resist arrest if you know what's good for you. As for the taseing, I don't think it was warranted. However it must not have been turned up very high. He's just going "ow, ow, ow". From what I've seem, tasers usually put you down and you can't even talk real well for a couple minutes.

This goes for any and all politicians. First of all this is not the first time Kerry or any other politicians had anyone removed from his audience because he/she did not like the line of questions that they were be presented with. He, and Bush did the same thing quite a few times during their race for the presidency. Second any one attending that function, because of the presence of a US Senator had to be subjected to a weapons search before they were allowed into that enclosed assembly area. All that was necessary with that young man, who possessed no visible weapons, (Except a book. which did not look like it was loaded) was to cuff him to secure the safety of the officers, the by-standers in the general area and most of all the individual them selves. (There allot of idiot cops and rent-a-cops out there who think, “How dare you fight with me. I am the law”.) Truth is, and allot of them have a very hard time with the fact that they only represent/enforce the law. But politicians are prostituting themselves for votes from the police ranks, by giving back to the police and rent-a-cops the brutal nature they had for many years before they were held accountable by the courts for their actions.

I could not tell if those were state, city or campus police. From what I could see they were campus police who first of all are given very little training in proper police tactics and second are very prone to act in an in-appropriate and unlawful way. Knowing in the back of their minds that the college, not them will be held fully responsible for their unlawful actions.

Are we the people of this country, who are compelled by our constitution forced to abide by the laws of this country, and at the same time allow politicians to be protected from hard to answer questions because they believe they are above the law, expected to attend a function such as this one only with a list of questions that have been pre-approved by the politician and/or their staff? IMOP the answer to that question is YES. I was a NYC cop for twenty years and ordered many times to work at functions such as the one discussed here and to be prepared to remove any one from any assembly that might be considered to be a threat to any politicians ego by any verbal questions that might be the cause a potential disturbance. (Today it is called “Breach of peace”.) We did not act on our own but only by a given pre-arranged signal by our superiors and/or the politicians staff. Then and only then did we act to remove such an individual, regardless as to whether we believed he/she was causing a disturbance or not.

From what I could make out from the video the police were stationed behind the speaker at that microphone for just that purpose. To look for a signal to remove any one that would be a threat to the politician’s ego or character. (Boy isn’t it amazing how politicians are given the lawful right to pollute our atmosphere with their hot air.)

Doesn’t this situation have the same smell that existed when the British were here, or when the Nazi’s were growing in power, or in any dictatorship that exists today?

A campus is not just a place for learning but also to hash out what is truth and what are lies.

Truth, something most politicians fear more that losing their own lives, children or any election.

Amen

Boy you're way off here, which is understandable, this topic is old news and the facts might of been forgotten (and who wants to research this again)?



He was removed because he pushed himself up to the microphone after Kerry said he was through answering questions. Q&A was over, how disrespectful to the Senator's time.


Then after Kerry allowed him to ask the questions he began to ask disrespectful questions with profanity. That's when I'd start yanking him out of there, which is what the police did. At first they asked politely, when he refused, it escalated.

Excellent post. And spoken from experience. Thankyou.

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