Freek,

You're right, you're not pushing Gro out. You're just the last piece of BS to be heaped on my friend. But let me tell you something very clearly. Grogan is worth 100 of you. There are some people who can learn that respect can be held inside disagreements (Hi Nomad), and others who can only see the surface and think they see the whole. You fall in the later category, along with a number of other recent additions to this forum who seem to be mentally unbalanced. If you thought Grogan was rude and abrasive? You haven't had a professional work at it yet. But you will.