I totally agree with you Maggie, and i have read some of HF's so caled "knowledge" if he was half as smart as he thinks he is he would keep his damn mouth shut. Grogan is one of THE most knowledgeable people in this forum, and i could care less if he helps me fix some weird problem i have by tellin me to fix the f'in thing, or any other words he so chooses to use. The key is he DOES help us ALL fix problems and that is THE most important thing here. HF, grow the hell up, or start your own forum, i can see it now, RomperRoomComputerForum, gotta love it. Get yer ass back here Mike, do NOT let this moron chase yer ass away!! Too damn many of us wan, and NEED yer help.