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400684, I think I killed my keyboard Posted by bobbo, Tue Feb-21-06 09:05 PM
I just spilled a glass of wine on my new MS Ergonomic keyboard. :+ It worked for a while while wet and I used a hair dryer on it, but it just stopped working. It's USB and the lights on it flash during bootup. Any recommendations?

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400689, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by giseuda, Tue Feb-21-06 09:52 PM
The only recomendation I can make is keep the wine away from the keyboard.
Been there...Done that! :lol:
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400692, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by KJT, Tue Feb-21-06 10:04 PM
You've probably got nothing to lose at this point so you may as well disconnect it and proceed to rinse it out thoroughly but gently with water. Once done rinsing, shake it gently to remove all the excess water you can, and then let it AIR DRY naturally for a few days until it's absolutely, positively dry. Then, give it a try. Don't be impatient! It may be too late already but so you'll need a bit of luck, and patience.
Jim.
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400694, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by bobbo, Tue Feb-21-06 10:09 PM
Thanks, Jim. I'll give it a try. I'm not holding my breath however. I'll report back if I'm successful.

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400695, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by anthonyS, Tue Feb-21-06 10:12 PM
It's been my experience that once you spill something (especially something with sugar in it (ie- sticky)) the keyboard is all but ruined- you'll always have "sticky keys."
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401232, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by Wakko, Fri Feb-24-06 04:54 PM
For the most part that is true. Best thing I've found to do is: A) take a photo of the key layout (or find a similiar keyboard) B) Rip out all the keys C) Split open the keyboard (Take the screws out) D) Remove the circuits E) Put the keyboard shell and keys in the dishwasher F) Use warm water on a Qtip, gently clean any curcuits you think are dirty. G) Put it all back together.
That is if you consider the above worth the effort for your problem.
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400706, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by LilJoe, Tue Feb-21-06 11:06 PM
Two things to try #1 take it apart and wash the plastic membrane that fits between the keys and the board or # 2 put in dishwasher and do not use the heat cycle to dry it,Set it on end and let it drain and air dry.
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400709, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by Laurie, Tue Feb-21-06 11:16 PM
Once you get it all sorted out, I'll send you some of my kids old 'sippie' cups.
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400722, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by bobbo, Wed Feb-22-06 12:12 AM
Thanks Laurie, I have a sippie cup that my grandson uses. I'm almost ready for a nursing bottle with nipple. :P

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400788, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by Mojo2000, Wed Feb-22-06 11:25 AM
>Thanks Laurie, I have a sippie cup that my grandson uses. >I'm almost ready for a nursing bottle with nipple. :P
Are you talking about the soft, organic kind that comes in neighboring pairs? :+ :clap: One is never too old for that...
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400800, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by suatcini, Wed Feb-22-06 01:15 PM
Hello
Please do not waste your taste using a bottle with a nip while you can find live fleshy ones all around.
Regards
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400710, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by KJT, Tue Feb-21-06 11:18 PM
Quote: # 2 put in dishwasher and do not use the heat cycle to dry it, Set it on end and let it drain and air dry.
LOL. If he or his wife is the "dishwasher", they're not going to appreciate having a large keyboard "put in". :+ :+ :+
Jim.
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400712, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by casca, Tue Feb-21-06 11:29 PM
Simply convert a red neck hard hat beer hat to hold your vino.
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400714, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by greyeyezz, Tue Feb-21-06 11:41 PM
After you rinse it out put it in the clothes dryer at low heat:+ :+ :+
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400723, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by bobbo, Wed Feb-22-06 12:15 AM
At this point, I have just rinsed it out, shook it to remove excess water and have it standing on end to drain/dry out. If it doesn't work after that I'll disassemble it and try again. Damn! I really like(d) this keyboard.

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400732, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by Shelly, Wed Feb-22-06 12:57 AM
Never publicly confess to a killing.
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400754, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by bobbo, Wed Feb-22-06 02:43 AM
My bad, Shelly, I try to never do it again. :blusher:

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400762, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by MaxMinMike, Wed Feb-22-06 04:28 AM
LilJoe is right. And Fred Langa recommends using distilled water in a spray bottle.
Sorry to laugh, but this is a hilarious topic that really hits home. My wife kept ruining her keyboards with spilled Coke, so I bought her a "waterproof" one from circuit city. She killed that one, too :rolleyes: She's on #4 now...
At least make it good wine the next time! :lol:
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400771, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by DavyWavy, Wed Feb-22-06 05:32 AM
That's one of the reasons I stopped drinking, Bobbo...you'll find that coffee washes out of your keyboard much easier...
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400786, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by Mojo2000, Wed Feb-22-06 11:24 AM
>My wife kept ruining her keyboards with spilled >Coke, so I bought her a "waterproof" one from circuit city. >She killed that one, too :rolleyes: She's on #4 now...
Are you talking about that rubbery, flexible model you can roll up? I thought about getting that one once...
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400951, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by MaxMinMike, Thu Feb-23-06 03:13 AM
Mojo2000: Nope, just a $15 no-name keyboard from Circuit City that had an extra layer of supposedly waterproof plastic under the keys. Not quite! Though rubbery, roll-up keyboard sounds really cool!! :clap:
>Are you talking about that rubbery, flexible model you can >roll up? I thought about getting that one once...
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400980, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by Ttech, Thu Feb-23-06 12:03 PM
Quote: Though rubbery, roll-up keyboard sounds really cool!!
Not if you are a touch typist.
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400724, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by LilJoe, Wed Feb-22-06 12:24 AM
>After you rinse it out put it in the clothes dryer at low >heat:+ :+ :+ --------------------------------------------------------------- And tumble all the keys out. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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400731, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by Shelly, Wed Feb-22-06 12:56 AM
Do not put it in a dryer at ANY heat setting! Let it air dry for a few days.
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400768, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by greyeyezz, Wed Feb-22-06 05:04 AM
i think i just hurt myself laughing.....
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400777, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by giseuda, Wed Feb-22-06 08:49 AM
Me too! :lol:
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400735, RE: Spill the Wine and take that pearl Posted by Allyn, Wed Feb-22-06 12:59 AM
Was it good wine? }(
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400753, RE: Spill the Wine and take that pearl Posted by bobbo, Wed Feb-22-06 02:41 AM
The wine was OK Allyn, but I let out a damn good whine> :P

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400776, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by suatcini, Wed Feb-22-06 08:17 AM
Hello.
At the time of my posting an answer, I was sure you choked your keyboard. You still do not know whether you killed it or not.
Therefore, your saying that you killed your keyboard is not correct.
You will learn soon whether you killed your keyboard or not when you have completely dried it out.
My suggestion is, never apply external heat to any electronic stuff. It may get extremely hot itself during its operation. But it never likes to be heated externally.
Good luck.
Regards
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400817, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by Vijay, Wed Feb-22-06 03:38 PM
Suatcini,
This is a fun topic.Enjoy it.
Except of course for the wine that was spilt.
That was a crying shame.
Vijay
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400820, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by bobbo, Wed Feb-22-06 04:30 PM
I'll enjoy it a lot more if the keyboard starts working again.

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400921, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by Vijay, Thu Feb-23-06 12:39 AM
Bobbo,
Fun thread for us.For you my /our sympathies and hope it starts working soon.
Vijay
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400821, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by bobbo, Wed Feb-22-06 04:32 PM
Right now, I'm using the keyboard that the Ergo replaced. For testing purposes, is it possible to have more than one keyboard connected to the computer, i.e. PS2 and USB?

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400936, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by therube, Thu Feb-23-06 02:07 AM
If purchased with a credit card, check out any extended warranties that it may provide. Like lost/damaged within 90-days ...
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400972, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by bobbo, Thu Feb-23-06 10:54 AM
Good point, Steven. Will look into that.

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400983, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by Vijay, Thu Feb-23-06 01:51 PM
Surely that wouldn't cover user damage? Pls enlighten me.
Vijay
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401001, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by therube, Thu Feb-23-06 03:11 PM
Visa Business Guide to Benefits (1/1/06)
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Within the first ninety (90) days of purchase, Purchase Security will, at the Provider's discretion, replace, repair, or reimburse you for eligible items of personal property purchased entirely with your eligible Visa Business card up to a maximum of $10,000 per claim and $50,000 per cardholder in the event of theft or damage.
(continued)
What items are covered
What times are not covered (... losses resulting from abuse - is spilling coke, "abuse"?)
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401007, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by bobbo, Thu Feb-23-06 03:35 PM
Thankfully I won't be needing it this time, but that's good information to know.

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400991, My keyboard resurrected from the dead Posted by bobbo, Thu Feb-23-06 02:40 PM
Oh happy day!!
After gently rinsing with water and drying out for a couple of days, my keyboard is back from the dead and, so far, fully functional.:clap:
Many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread, particularly KJT, whose instructions worked. 
All that remains is to reprogram the shortcut keys.
I learned my lesson,... I won't drink and drive my keyboard again.:+

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401032, RE: My keyboard resurrected from the dead Posted by giseuda, Thu Feb-23-06 06:28 PM
You're off probation and done your community service.....congrats!! :-)
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401056, RE: My keyboard resurrected from the dead Posted by Bob H, Thu Feb-23-06 08:25 PM
You might want to look at a Fellowes Keyguard that will be a form fitting cover custom made for the KB. I put them on all of mine and for about $20.00,it's cheap protection for a high end KB. Staples carries them and I just got one ordered for my Daughter's Belkin ErgoPro model.
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401101, RE: My keyboard resurrected from the dead Posted by bobbo, Fri Feb-24-06 01:03 AM
Thanks Bob, but mine is an ergonomic shaped keyboard. I don't think the there's a Fellowes Keyguard that will fit it.


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401109, RE: My keyboard resurrected from the dead Posted by Laurie, Fri Feb-24-06 01:21 AM
"Saran Wrap"
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401210, RE: My keyboard resurrected from the dead Posted by bobbo, Fri Feb-24-06 03:47 PM
THAT'S IT, Laurie. Wrap my sippie cup in Saran Wrap and it can't possibly spill. 

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401174, RE: My keyboard resurrected from the dead Posted by Bob H, Fri Feb-24-06 12:53 PM
I've got them for four ergo boards and they all fit perfectly, including one that has a scroll wheel. Three are MS and this last one was the Belkin. I think you'd probably get one OK.
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401112, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by clme849, Fri Feb-24-06 01:32 AM
For those with the $$$ Virtual Laser Keyboard. Wish I had one. Pepsi got two of my keyboards.:-)
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401188, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by LilJoe, Fri Feb-24-06 01:58 PM
You people who can't handle your drinking should not be driving a computer.}( :+ :clap: :lol:
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401224, RE: I think I killed my keyboard Posted by Bob H, Fri Feb-24-06 04:39 PM
Ain't me. it's the drunks that surround me.
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401398, Keyboard not completely fixed Posted by bobbo, Sat Feb-25-06 08:55 PM
OOPS! As it turns out, my keyboard isn't completely restored. Everything but the #1/! works. I have to use the number pad for #1 and the character map for the exclamation point. I will live with it for the time being, as I do like this keyboard, but if my compulsive nature fails me I will probably replace it after a while. I tried opening it to do some more cleaning, but there are 23 screws holding it together. Anyway, after opening it as much as I could {probably voiding any warantee), I tried cleaning the circuit film under #1 with a moistened q-tip, but to no avail. I'm hoping, with repetative use, the #1 key will start working again. I hope I learned my lesson on this. :+

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401417, RE: Keyboard not completely fixed Posted by KJT, Sat Feb-25-06 11:23 PM
If the tilde/apostrophe key next to the !/1 key still works as MS intended, it can be programmed to be the !/1 key. Let me know if you want the link.
Jim.
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401437, RE: Keyboard not completely fixed Posted by bobbo, Sun Feb-26-06 12:44 AM
Thanks Jim, please send the link. I will have to be able to change it back and forth as I use the tilde/apostrophe when gaming. I'm just hoping that the key will recover. Do you think rewashing could restore it?

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401478, RE: Keyboard not completely fixed Posted by lenjack, Sun Feb-26-06 11:54 AM
I did the same thing, but when I tried to use my credit card warranty, it didn't work...I spilled wine on my credit card.:clap:
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401480, RE: Keyboard not completely fixed Posted by KJT, Sun Feb-26-06 12:27 PM
Quote: Thanks Jim, please send the link. I will have to be able to change it back and forth as I use the tilde/apostrophe when gaming. I'm just hoping that the key will recover. Do you think rewashing could restore it?
Maybe, with time the function will return. Give it several days to dry completely and/or for the effects of the wine to wear off. :7
It's too much trouble to change key functions back and forth to bother tweaking the tilde/` key in my opinion. It requires a reboot each time you make changes, which would get old very quickly. Nevertheless, here's the link: http://webpages.charter.net/krumsick/ It's pretty straight forward but I'll try to help if you do decide to use it and have questions.
I don't think re-washing would do any good, but that's just a guess. I don't "game" so I wouldn't try it but if not having the key function is an absolute nightmare, go ahead. Be sure to let it dry completely. If you damage the other keys that are now functional, don't blame me. LOL
You could try reprogramming the !/1 key separately. You already have a 1 key in the Numpad so you only need to relocate the ! part of the key. You could try reprogramming the pipe/back slash key located above your Enter key. Shift + pipe would display an ! (exclamation) point.
Jim.
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401500, RE: Keyboard not completely fixed Posted by bobbo, Sun Feb-26-06 03:31 PM
I'll look at http://webpages.charter.net/krumsick/. Perhaps it could remap Shift-Keypad #1 to get the !. On the other hand, since washing only helped the first time, it may fix the remaining problem. I'm very compulsive :P and can't stand the idea that the keyboard isn't working perfectly. I have a backup keyboard which I can use while this one gets a thorough cleaning and drying if I choose to do it. I really appreciate your input on this, Jim.

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401527, RE: Keyboard not completely fixed Posted by Shelly, Sun Feb-26-06 05:26 PM
You need to be flexible. I once had a keyboard on which the letter L key stopped working. I simply avoided words with an L in them for a while, the English language is loaded with synonyms.
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401543, RE: Keyboard not completely fixed Posted by bobbo, Sun Feb-26-06 06:30 PM
She--y, how cou-d you stand not being ab-e to give obnoxious Forum members Ho-y He--!! :lol:

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401542, RE: Keyboard not completely fixed Posted by bobbo, Sun Feb-26-06 06:27 PM
I installed and ran Key Tweak. The simplest fix was to reprogram the #1 key on the numeric keypad to #1/!. It's working just fine!!! And,... I still have the tilde key for gaming. I found out that when a key is reprogrammed it adapts both actions, ie. shifted/non shifted. If I had reprogrammed the Shift + pipe, I would have lost the back slash, an extremely necessary key. So,.... I'm back in business and will check the nonfuctioning #1 key from time to time to see whether it's doing anything. Thanks again, Jim, for your valuable input.

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401553, RE: Keyboard not completely fixed Posted by KJT, Sun Feb-26-06 07:32 PM
I'm glad I could help. Sorry about the misinformation about the Shift key usage. I use a different keyboard tweaker to make those changes that require the Shift key to be pressed. It's considerably less user friendly, and it's no longer free.
Now that you see that keys can be changed, you may have other little used, or totally unused keys you could reprogram to your personal preference. The one I always program away is the CapsLock key. To me it's the most useless key ever devised given its location. I set it to be a second Left Shift key, so now when I need to shift, if I inadvertently hit CapsLock, it still does what I want it to do.
Jim.
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401565, RE: Keyboard not completely fixed Posted by bobbo, Sun Feb-26-06 08:50 PM
Quote: The one I always program away is the CapsLock key. To me it's the most useless key ever devised given its location.
I couldn't agree more. The software that comes with the MS 4000 keyboard includes some tweaks, one of which is to the ability to disable CapsLock.


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401567, RE: Keyboard not completely fixed Posted by KJT, Sun Feb-26-06 09:13 PM
Disabled is good. :lol:
Years ago, at the office, keyboard tweaking and other "software based" changes were strictly prohibited. So, I popped the CapsLock key off and stored it in my desk. It drew some disgusted looks from the IT people, but I was never forced to put it back.
Jim.
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401638, RE: Keyboard not completely fixed Posted by Shelly, Mon Feb-27-06 05:16 PM
I could never survive without a Caps Lock. Package services want address labels in caps.
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401569, RE: I think I killed my keyboard to bobbo Posted by Pauliez, Sun Feb-26-06 09:45 PM
I did the same thing with some "other" fluid and called MS to find out what I could do to clean and/or repair the MS keyboard and they asked me for my name and address and sent me a new keyboard. They told me to turn the old one into a hockey puck. Also there is a sort of lifetime warranty on things like keyboards, mice and/or miceses. Give e’m a call.
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401601, RE: I think I killed my keyboard to bobbo Posted by bobbo, Mon Feb-27-06 01:36 AM
That's certainly worth a call. Thanks for the heads up, Paul.

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401625, RE: I think I killed my keyboard to bobbo Posted by bobbo, Mon Feb-27-06 03:33 PM
Paul, I wish I knew who you talked with at MS. I called and was switched around to various numbers and was finally told to buy a new one. ;(

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401628, RE: I think I killed my keyboard to bobbo Posted by KJT, Mon Feb-27-06 03:52 PM
If MS had replaced your keyboard, at least half of the forum members would have been calling Microsoft for a free "replacement". :clap:
Jim.
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401632, RE: I think I killed my keyboard to bobbo Posted by bobbo, Mon Feb-27-06 04:18 PM
Well, one Forum member, Pauliez, got one. It was certainly worth a try. :lol:

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401783, RE: I think I killed my keyboard to bobbo Posted by Pauliez, Wed Mar-01-06 08:13 AM
I not only got my MS Keyboard replaced but my track ball mouse. Both were well over the one year limit. Let me dig out the box that the new keyboard came in and see what was on the invoice. Article ID : 326246 From here I found a phone number and spoke to a tech. I can remember telling him that my keyboard was under three years old,(which it is not). In fact they sent me a new black one. I have the MS Internet Keyboard. Worked for me!
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406867, Update,.. MS replaced Keyboard Posted by bobbo, Fri Apr-07-06 03:25 PM
Called MS again and explained that the #1/! key wasn't working. Keyboard was backordered, and MS put me on their replacement list. Received the replacement keyboard this morning, and all is well. :clap:

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406871, RE: Update,.. MS replaced Keyboard Posted by DavyWavy, Fri Apr-07-06 05:38 PM
Great, Bobbo! Celebrate! Have another glass of wine....
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406875, RE: Update,.. MS replaced Keyboard Posted by Bob H, Fri Apr-07-06 06:29 PM
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406885, RE: Update,.. MS replaced Keyboard Posted by soulhotrod, Fri Apr-07-06 07:11 PM
Glad that your problems are solved.Nice to know about MS replacement policy. That's one good reason to buy MS. This whole question and answer period has been very good.
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406887, RE: Update,.. MS replaced Keyboard Posted by bobbo, Fri Apr-07-06 07:28 PM
Quote: Great, Bobbo! Celebrate! Have another glass of wine.... I'm going to just that, Davy, but nowhere near my new keyboard. :lol:

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